Walk anothers path
Learn to dance a new dance
Saturday, June 30, 2007
Greensburg Kansas (Tornado Aftermath)
....and this is why we help each other. GET IT?
PLEASE.....
Greensburg, Kansas
Tornado Disaster Assistance Needed
Greensburg needs your help with reconstruction.
Please send your donations to:
Greensburg Rebuilding Fund
%Greensburg State Bank
P. O. Box 787
Greensburg, Kansas 67054
Every dollar you donate will go to rebuilding our city
Friday, May 4, 2007
A human being should be able to change

“A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”
Robert A. Heinlein
Thursday, May 3, 2007
Is New Mexico ready for the 21st Century?
I mentioned in my last post. I was looking for more information that might help me, my neighbors and my community concerning the flooding some land owners are experiencing on the Rio Ojo Claiente. Our Community and the Rio Ojo Caliente and far worse off than I realized.
We have all heard recently that Global Warming is becoming a "HOT TOPIC". No pun intended. Just how hot.
What are the impacts of CLIMATE CHANGE in New Mexico.
What Gov. Richardson has to say. LINK:
AGENCY TECHNICAL WORK GROUP
STATE OF NEW MEXICO
December 30, 2005
NOTE: This report was published 2005.
Natural Systems
Climate change is likely to have significant impacts on the ecosystems of New Mexico’s forests, grasslands, deserts, lakes and streams. Predicting the specific impacts is difficult because of the complexity of natural systems, with each species responding in its own way to the physical environment and with multiple interactions among species.
As each species responds individually to its changed environment, existing plant or animal communities will likely change as new assemblages of species form. Changes in ecosystem structure and functioning will often be abrupt rather than continuous and gradual.
Aquatic systems are particularly vulnerable to climate change because they will be impacted not only by warmer temperatures but also by changes in the timing and amount of water. Climate change is expected to result in a significant loss of aquatic habitat.
Habitat suitable for coldwater fish (e.g., trout) is expected to shrink, with replacement by warmwater fish species. Extinction rates of many endemic species of the eastern plains is expected to increase. Riparian ecosystems are expected to experience losses and decline, with a reduction in species diversity.
Change in terrestrial ecosystems will include shifts in the timing of seasonal life history events such as breeding of birds, insects or amphibians, and flowering of plants. Geographic ranges are expected to shift to the north and to higher elevations. Some species trapped on isolated mountain ranges could become locally extinct if the mountain is not high enough to provide suitable alternative habitat and the species cannot disperse across intervening deserts to other mountaintops.
Invasions of non-native species are likely, but species diversity may be reduced.
Shrubs such as mesquite and creosotebush are likely to further invade grasslands. Forests are likely to experience more catastrophic wildfires, and more massive dieback due to drought stress and insect outbreaks. Alpine meadows may largely disappear from New Mexico.
This is one paragraph of a 52 page document. Please read the entire 52 pages. It is critical information to you, your families and to our community to New Mexico, and really it is a Global concern.
I mentioned 2010. my next post will discuss 2010 and 2030. What's next? What can be done? What is being done. What we can do.
This BLOG is still about the Community and the Rio Ojo Caliente we just have to look at it harder. We must do this for our children and we must act now.
Somos vecinos, nosotros debemos tomar el cuidado del comunidad
We have all heard recently that Global Warming is becoming a "HOT TOPIC". No pun intended. Just how hot.
What are the impacts of CLIMATE CHANGE in New Mexico.
What Gov. Richardson has to say. LINK:
AGENCY TECHNICAL WORK GROUP
STATE OF NEW MEXICO
December 30, 2005
NOTE: This report was published 2005.
Natural Systems
Climate change is likely to have significant impacts on the ecosystems of New Mexico’s forests, grasslands, deserts, lakes and streams. Predicting the specific impacts is difficult because of the complexity of natural systems, with each species responding in its own way to the physical environment and with multiple interactions among species.
As each species responds individually to its changed environment, existing plant or animal communities will likely change as new assemblages of species form. Changes in ecosystem structure and functioning will often be abrupt rather than continuous and gradual.
Aquatic systems are particularly vulnerable to climate change because they will be impacted not only by warmer temperatures but also by changes in the timing and amount of water. Climate change is expected to result in a significant loss of aquatic habitat.
Habitat suitable for coldwater fish (e.g., trout) is expected to shrink, with replacement by warmwater fish species. Extinction rates of many endemic species of the eastern plains is expected to increase. Riparian ecosystems are expected to experience losses and decline, with a reduction in species diversity.
Change in terrestrial ecosystems will include shifts in the timing of seasonal life history events such as breeding of birds, insects or amphibians, and flowering of plants. Geographic ranges are expected to shift to the north and to higher elevations. Some species trapped on isolated mountain ranges could become locally extinct if the mountain is not high enough to provide suitable alternative habitat and the species cannot disperse across intervening deserts to other mountaintops.
Invasions of non-native species are likely, but species diversity may be reduced.
Shrubs such as mesquite and creosotebush are likely to further invade grasslands. Forests are likely to experience more catastrophic wildfires, and more massive dieback due to drought stress and insect outbreaks. Alpine meadows may largely disappear from New Mexico.
This is one paragraph of a 52 page document. Please read the entire 52 pages. It is critical information to you, your families and to our community to New Mexico, and really it is a Global concern.
I mentioned 2010. my next post will discuss 2010 and 2030. What's next? What can be done? What is being done. What we can do.
This BLOG is still about the Community and the Rio Ojo Caliente we just have to look at it harder. We must do this for our children and we must act now.
Somos vecinos, nosotros debemos tomar el cuidado del comunidad
Friday, April 27, 2007
The Democrats’ First 2008 Presidential Debate
The Democrats’ First 2008 Presidential Debate
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Published: April 27, 2007
The following is a transcript of the 2008 Democratic primary presidential debate hosted by MSNBC. The participants were Senator Joesph Biden, Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator Christopher Dodd, John Edwards, John Gravel, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Senator Barack Obama, Governor William Richardson and the debate was moderated by Brian Williams. Transcribed by the Federal News Service, a private transcription agency.
Just in case you wanted it. I read them and listened to the Debate. As normal some questions were not answered. I had a open mind coming into this first debate. I think Dennis Kucinich was the only one who really spoke to a different path. Radical to think that peace might work instead of war. I'LL KEEP LISTENING. Republicans are next. Next week I believe. I'll post info here. A new balance between business too! get out of politics and get SUPPORT the American People not your pockets. Vote with your $$$ too. Business can feel that and politicians who don't get what that majority wants...OUT EM.VOTE Like Bush Said. "If your not with us" Bush is not with us. He's on a way different mission. Glad that part in one way or another will end in 2008. No one raised a hand supporting the American People calls for Impeachment. WHY?
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Published: April 27, 2007
The following is a transcript of the 2008 Democratic primary presidential debate hosted by MSNBC. The participants were Senator Joesph Biden, Senator Hillary Clinton, Senator Christopher Dodd, John Edwards, John Gravel, Rep. Dennis Kucinich, Senator Barack Obama, Governor William Richardson and the debate was moderated by Brian Williams. Transcribed by the Federal News Service, a private transcription agency.
Just in case you wanted it. I read them and listened to the Debate. As normal some questions were not answered. I had a open mind coming into this first debate. I think Dennis Kucinich was the only one who really spoke to a different path. Radical to think that peace might work instead of war. I'LL KEEP LISTENING. Republicans are next. Next week I believe. I'll post info here. A new balance between business too! get out of politics and get SUPPORT the American People not your pockets. Vote with your $$$ too. Business can feel that and politicians who don't get what that majority wants...OUT EM.VOTE Like Bush Said. "If your not with us" Bush is not with us. He's on a way different mission. Glad that part in one way or another will end in 2008. No one raised a hand supporting the American People calls for Impeachment. WHY?
First Democratic Presidential Debate 07
This is CLIP 2 From Utube User Added April 27, 2007 From acurajustin
Thanks acurajustin. Glad someone is getting this. Where was on on local or national media. Not in NM. What's up. This is our president we're talking about and our media does what... Shows us crap.
Wednesday, April 18, 2007
The Rio Ojo Caliente. MY NEW BLOG
Check out my new BLOG. Its about te Rio Ojo Caliente River. We live close. Close enough to be concerned about the recent flooding. Yea.... Yea.... I know. Buyer BEWARE!. It's the cost one must pay tolive close to water. Our choice as well as some of our neighbors choices too!
We all have to work together. Perhaps this will show us how.
SAFETY IS NO ACCIDENT!
We all have to work together. Perhaps this will show us how.
SAFETY IS NO ACCIDENT!
Monday, March 5, 2007
Man With A Movie Camera - R2D2 - Cinematic Orchestra
An excerpt from the 1929 film by Dziga Vertov. Great Music and wonderful camera and editing work.
Sunday, March 4, 2007
Simple Thoughts
Listening
When you want to focus your hearing
Use your hands to partically cover your ears
You know... like when you were a child.
Listening to the Ocean
As an Boater scouting a river and knowing the tones
of calm or danger as they eco from the canyon below.....
Listen carefully. In nature it is so much more simple.
No distractions to just listening... especially if your all alone.
Love yourself, nature,your family and all nations.

I'll see you at or in the river. Go with the flow!!
Lynn
3-4-07
When you want to focus your hearing
Use your hands to partically cover your ears
You know... like when you were a child.
Listening to the Ocean
As an Boater scouting a river and knowing the tones
of calm or danger as they eco from the canyon below.....
Listen carefully. In nature it is so much more simple.
No distractions to just listening... especially if your all alone.
Love yourself, nature,your family and all nations.

I'll see you at or in the river. Go with the flow!!
Lynn
3-4-07
UTube ( YOU CHOOSE 08 )
In the "News". UTube announces "YOUCHOOSE 08.
In the media this is being touted as an opportunity to share your voice, make video comments and alike. Some allow comments and some do not. For the one's that do not.... WHERE IS OUR VOICE, How willl they hear us and support our communities and our vote? They have their voice. Make sure we have ours. Thanks.
Speaking of Thanks... A Day of Thanksgiving....
Are we as a world THANKFUL and Blessed? Are we living this dream. Are all People and Nations Thankful and blessed? ( THIS IS NOT JUST AN AMERICAN DREAM )
Hillary: Comments not allowed
McCain: Commnets not allowed?
Oboma Comments Allowed?
Joe Bidendot: Allowed comments.
Rudy Giulian. No comments allowed
Bill Richardson. Allowed Comments.
Gov Mitt Romney:Allowed comments
John Edwards allowed comments
Kucinich 2008 Allowed Comments
We need to have voice and to have a president who will truly lead US. We are facing many issues and some will be very pressing in the next few years.
A few concerns I have are.
Peak Oil, US Economy, 911 The Truth, Global Warming to mention a few. America do not be seperated, We are a Great PEOPLE and it's time for US ALL to Be working on the same page. We need to get it right this time. Make sure your " OUR" voice is heard and you vote count. I'm not a Rebublican or Democrat ( I've gone both ways. I'm for the one who will real make changes I am a US CITIZEN an American, your neighbor, and a friend.... I am a world citizen. Let's get it done... right this time.... Stop that HATE and BE ONE....Thanks
Oh Yea! We need a President who will STOP the fear mongering an UNITE all world communities as one....
One voice Silenced JFK
Another Voice Silenced MLK
What have we learned?
Theodore Roosevelt: Conserving America's Future. Not just America. THE WORLD!
Corporate Coup in the U.S.
In the media this is being touted as an opportunity to share your voice, make video comments and alike. Some allow comments and some do not. For the one's that do not.... WHERE IS OUR VOICE, How willl they hear us and support our communities and our vote? They have their voice. Make sure we have ours. Thanks.
Speaking of Thanks... A Day of Thanksgiving....
Are we as a world THANKFUL and Blessed? Are we living this dream. Are all People and Nations Thankful and blessed? ( THIS IS NOT JUST AN AMERICAN DREAM )
Hillary: Comments not allowed
McCain: Commnets not allowed?
Oboma Comments Allowed?
Joe Bidendot: Allowed comments.
Rudy Giulian. No comments allowed
Bill Richardson. Allowed Comments.
Gov Mitt Romney:Allowed comments
John Edwards allowed comments
Kucinich 2008 Allowed Comments
We need to have voice and to have a president who will truly lead US. We are facing many issues and some will be very pressing in the next few years.
A few concerns I have are.
Peak Oil, US Economy, 911 The Truth, Global Warming to mention a few. America do not be seperated, We are a Great PEOPLE and it's time for US ALL to Be working on the same page. We need to get it right this time. Make sure your " OUR" voice is heard and you vote count. I'm not a Rebublican or Democrat ( I've gone both ways. I'm for the one who will real make changes I am a US CITIZEN an American, your neighbor, and a friend.... I am a world citizen. Let's get it done... right this time.... Stop that HATE and BE ONE....Thanks
Oh Yea! We need a President who will STOP the fear mongering an UNITE all world communities as one....
One voice Silenced JFK
Another Voice Silenced MLK
What have we learned?
Theodore Roosevelt: Conserving America's Future. Not just America. THE WORLD!
Corporate Coup in the U.S.
Saturday, March 3, 2007
Thursday, March 1, 2007
Wednesday, February 28, 2007
Friday, February 9, 2007
Thursday, February 8, 2007
New Mexico- Impeachment THIS FIRDAY.
1SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION 548TH LEGISLATURE- STATE OF NEW MEXICO
- FIRST SESSION, 2007INTRODUCED BY Gerald P. Ortiz y Pino
A JOINT RESOLUTION PETITIONING CONGRESS TO COMMENCE THE INVESTIGATION OF AND IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND VICE PRESIDENT RICHARD B. CHENEY.WHEREAS, George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney conspired with others.....
It passed... So now what? See the proceeding for yourself and act locally.
- FIRST SESSION, 2007INTRODUCED BY Gerald P. Ortiz y Pino
A JOINT RESOLUTION PETITIONING CONGRESS TO COMMENCE THE INVESTIGATION OF AND IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS AGAINST PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH AND VICE PRESIDENT RICHARD B. CHENEY.WHEREAS, George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney conspired with others.....
It passed... So now what? See the proceeding for yourself and act locally.
Wednesday, February 7, 2007
Dick Cheney, Peak Oil and the Final Count Down
OIL AND WAR
Dick Cheney in London 1999: “Oil is unique in that it is so strategic in nature. We are not talking about soapflakes or leisurewear here. Energy is truly fundamental to the world's economy. The Gulf War was a reflection of that reality.”
Dick Cheney, Peak Oil and the Final Count Down
By Kjell Aleklett
Uppsala University, Sweden
Aleklett@tsl.uu.se
President of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil
www.peakoil.net
May 12, 2004
Dick Cheney in London 1999: “Oil is unique in that it is so strategic in nature. We are not talking about soapflakes or leisurewear here. Energy is truly fundamental to the world's economy. The Gulf War was a reflection of that reality.”
Dick Cheney, Peak Oil and the Final Count Down
By Kjell Aleklett
Uppsala University, Sweden
Aleklett@tsl.uu.se
President of the Association for the Study of Peak Oil
www.peakoil.net
May 12, 2004
"How Do I Know This Isn't Just Fear-Mongerin-PEAK OIL"
"How Do I Know This Isn't Just Fear- Mongering by Loony-Environmentalists?"
If you think what you are reading on this page is the product of a loony-left nut, consider what Representative Roscoe Bartlett (Republican, Maryland) has had to say in speeches to Congress or what billionaire investor Richard Rainwater has had to say in the pages of Fortune Magazine.
On March 14, 2005 Bartlett gave an extremely thorough presentation to Congress about the frightening ramifications of Peak Oil. During his presentation Representative Bartlett, who may be the most conservative member of Congress, quoted from this site extensively, citing the author (Matt Savinar) by name on numerous occasions, while employing several analogies and examples originally published on this site. You can read the full congressional record of Representative Bartlett's presentation by clicking here. You can view a video of Bartlett recommending the article you are now reading to Resources for the Future, an extremely influential DC think tank, by clicking here.
On April 19, 2005 Representative Bartlett was interviewed on national television. Again, he referenced the article you are now reading:
One of the writers on this starts his article by saying, 'Dear Reader, Civilization as we know it will end soon.' Now your first impulse is to put down the article. This guy's a nut. But if you don't put it down and read through the article, you're hard-pressed to argue with his conclusions.
On May 12, 2005 Representative Bartlett gave another presentation about Peak Oil on the floor of the House of Representatives, stating that this website "galvanized" him. On July 19, 2005 he had the following to say:
Mr. Speaker, if you go to your computer this evening and do a Google search for peak oil, you will find there a large assortment of articles and comments. Like every issue, you will find a few people who are on the extreme, but there will be a lot of mainstream observations there.
One of the articles that you will find there was written by Matt Savinar. Matt Savinar is not a technical person. He is a lawyer, a good one, and he does what lawyers do. He goes to the sources and builds his case. Matt Savinar could be correct when he said, "Dear Reader, civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon.'' I would encourage you, Mr. Speaker, to pull up his article and readit. It is really very sobering.
In subsequent speeches, Representative Bartlett read large excerpts of this site verbatim into the official US Congressional record. He has also frequently quoted a surprisingly frank September 2005 report from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers entitled "Energy Trends and Their Implications for U.S. Amry Installations." The report candidly explains among other things, that:
. . . energy consumption is indispensable to our standard of living and a necessity for the Army to carry out its mission. However, current trends are not sustainable. The impact of excessive, unsustainable energy consumption may undermine the very culture and activities it supports . . .
Bartlett isn't the only prominent conservative extremely concerned about these matters. According to the December 26, 2005 issue of Fortune Magazine, Richard Rainwater, a multi-billionaire investor and friend of George W. Bush, reads this site regularly. In an article entitled "Energy Prophet of Doom" Fortune reporter Oliver Ryan writes:
"Rainwater," the voice on the phone announces. "Now, type L-A-T-O-C into Yahoo, and scroll down to the seventh item." Rainwater doesn't use e-mail. Rather, he uses rapid-fire phone calls to spread the gospel he discovers every morning on the web. One day it might be the decline of arable land in Malaysia. The next it could be the Olduvai theory of per capita energy consumption. "L-A-T-O-C" stands for LifeAfterTheOilCrash.net, a blog edited by Matt Savinar, 27, of Santa Rosa, Calif.
The Fortune article goes on to quote Rainwater as saying:
The world as we know it is unwinding with respect to Social Security, pensions, Medicare. We're going to have dramatically increased taxes in the U.S. I believe we're going into a world where there's going to be more hostility. More people are going to be asking, 'Why did God do this to us?' Whatever God they worship. Alfred Sloan said it a long time ago at General Motors, that we're giving these things during good times. What happens in bad times? We're going to have to take them back, and then everybody will riot. And he's right.
Apparently, Richard Rainwater and Alfred Sloan aren't the only people expecting large scale civil unrest in the foreseeable future. In January 2006, the Department of Homeland Security gave Halliiburton subsidiary Kellog, Brown, & Root a $400 million dollar contract to build vast new domestic detention camps. While the camps are ostensibly being built to house and process an "emergency influx of immigrants", one can't help but suspect they will be used to house domestic citizens who respond to the economic fallout of declining oil production by taking to the streets.
If you think what you are reading on this page is the product of a loony-left nut, consider what Representative Roscoe Bartlett (Republican, Maryland) has had to say in speeches to Congress or what billionaire investor Richard Rainwater has had to say in the pages of Fortune Magazine.
On March 14, 2005 Bartlett gave an extremely thorough presentation to Congress about the frightening ramifications of Peak Oil. During his presentation Representative Bartlett, who may be the most conservative member of Congress, quoted from this site extensively, citing the author (Matt Savinar) by name on numerous occasions, while employing several analogies and examples originally published on this site. You can read the full congressional record of Representative Bartlett's presentation by clicking here. You can view a video of Bartlett recommending the article you are now reading to Resources for the Future, an extremely influential DC think tank, by clicking here.
On April 19, 2005 Representative Bartlett was interviewed on national television. Again, he referenced the article you are now reading:
One of the writers on this starts his article by saying, 'Dear Reader, Civilization as we know it will end soon.' Now your first impulse is to put down the article. This guy's a nut. But if you don't put it down and read through the article, you're hard-pressed to argue with his conclusions.
On May 12, 2005 Representative Bartlett gave another presentation about Peak Oil on the floor of the House of Representatives, stating that this website "galvanized" him. On July 19, 2005 he had the following to say:
Mr. Speaker, if you go to your computer this evening and do a Google search for peak oil, you will find there a large assortment of articles and comments. Like every issue, you will find a few people who are on the extreme, but there will be a lot of mainstream observations there.
One of the articles that you will find there was written by Matt Savinar. Matt Savinar is not a technical person. He is a lawyer, a good one, and he does what lawyers do. He goes to the sources and builds his case. Matt Savinar could be correct when he said, "Dear Reader, civilization as we know it is coming to an end soon.'' I would encourage you, Mr. Speaker, to pull up his article and readit. It is really very sobering.
In subsequent speeches, Representative Bartlett read large excerpts of this site verbatim into the official US Congressional record. He has also frequently quoted a surprisingly frank September 2005 report from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers entitled "Energy Trends and Their Implications for U.S. Amry Installations." The report candidly explains among other things, that:
. . . energy consumption is indispensable to our standard of living and a necessity for the Army to carry out its mission. However, current trends are not sustainable. The impact of excessive, unsustainable energy consumption may undermine the very culture and activities it supports . . .
Bartlett isn't the only prominent conservative extremely concerned about these matters. According to the December 26, 2005 issue of Fortune Magazine, Richard Rainwater, a multi-billionaire investor and friend of George W. Bush, reads this site regularly. In an article entitled "Energy Prophet of Doom" Fortune reporter Oliver Ryan writes:
"Rainwater," the voice on the phone announces. "Now, type L-A-T-O-C into Yahoo, and scroll down to the seventh item." Rainwater doesn't use e-mail. Rather, he uses rapid-fire phone calls to spread the gospel he discovers every morning on the web. One day it might be the decline of arable land in Malaysia. The next it could be the Olduvai theory of per capita energy consumption. "L-A-T-O-C" stands for LifeAfterTheOilCrash.net, a blog edited by Matt Savinar, 27, of Santa Rosa, Calif.
The Fortune article goes on to quote Rainwater as saying:
The world as we know it is unwinding with respect to Social Security, pensions, Medicare. We're going to have dramatically increased taxes in the U.S. I believe we're going into a world where there's going to be more hostility. More people are going to be asking, 'Why did God do this to us?' Whatever God they worship. Alfred Sloan said it a long time ago at General Motors, that we're giving these things during good times. What happens in bad times? We're going to have to take them back, and then everybody will riot. And he's right.
Apparently, Richard Rainwater and Alfred Sloan aren't the only people expecting large scale civil unrest in the foreseeable future. In January 2006, the Department of Homeland Security gave Halliiburton subsidiary Kellog, Brown, & Root a $400 million dollar contract to build vast new domestic detention camps. While the camps are ostensibly being built to house and process an "emergency influx of immigrants", one can't help but suspect they will be used to house domestic citizens who respond to the economic fallout of declining oil production by taking to the streets.
Monday, February 5, 2007
How to Yurt ( Pert 5) Interior. Platform and Stuff
How to Yurt (Part 5)
The insides. First shots are just after moving in. Winter came along so we needed to move indoors and get some more work done. We build a loft. Benches, Installed our stove and tile work. The loft: Anchored to the floor in several places also the benches help give the platform support and stability. The other benches are used for storage and sitting and sleeping spaces for guests. Under the bed is an office space which has a desk and under the benches is storage for files. Like a file cabinet.
We looked around for padding for the benches. Reg. Foam was to expensive so we kept shopping till we found a great deal on some cushions. We paid 50.00 instead of 400.00 that worked for us. The additions have really made the place. Next we are working on insulating the top. We’re making individual panels for each rafter section. Not insulating like suggested. Why: Condensation. Seems to be an issue in most of the yurts I’ve lived in and been in. We’re hoping our fix will work out great. I think so.. But come back later to find out how it goes. Next video. Our Yurt warming party. Lots of people and friends came to see our yurt. Many were interested in a yurt of their own. We took a tour of other yurts in the area as well so we could compare. It was a great weekend.
The insides. First shots are just after moving in. Winter came along so we needed to move indoors and get some more work done. We build a loft. Benches, Installed our stove and tile work. The loft: Anchored to the floor in several places also the benches help give the platform support and stability. The other benches are used for storage and sitting and sleeping spaces for guests. Under the bed is an office space which has a desk and under the benches is storage for files. Like a file cabinet.
We looked around for padding for the benches. Reg. Foam was to expensive so we kept shopping till we found a great deal on some cushions. We paid 50.00 instead of 400.00 that worked for us. The additions have really made the place. Next we are working on insulating the top. We’re making individual panels for each rafter section. Not insulating like suggested. Why: Condensation. Seems to be an issue in most of the yurts I’ve lived in and been in. We’re hoping our fix will work out great. I think so.. But come back later to find out how it goes. Next video. Our Yurt warming party. Lots of people and friends came to see our yurt. Many were interested in a yurt of their own. We took a tour of other yurts in the area as well so we could compare. It was a great weekend.
Sunday, February 4, 2007
How to Yurt (Part 4) Alterations and Platform
How to Yurt (Part 4) Some of our fixes, modifications and our platform.
The Platform. Is your foundation. Make it exact or the fit will be poor and will effect the shape and strength on your yurt. There are many platform plans available or should be from your MFGR. We looked at several and built our own using several of the options provided. 2”x10”x12’ for the cross bracing. 4”x6”x10 for the main supports, joist hangers, main anchors 4’ in concrete w/rebar enforcing. 2”x6”x4’ small cross bracing 24” on center. Insulated bottom, Cut Vents in the floor for cool air draw.
Sanded and Sealed top deck 1’ TG. We used the temp blocks with the crosses cut in the top to set our platform frame out on, and get level and plum. Removed them and placed concrete filled blocks at critical load points. Under Stove and other places 12 in all besides the five deep concrete main anchors. Whatever you do make a good platform. Check with your specific MFGR for their SPEC’s. Get all the info before you begin. Some MFGRS have wall length’s cut to very specific lengths or sizes with hardware for attaching included. These types of walls make portability a WIZZ. Ours came long and had to be cut to the desired length. We fastened or attached the walls to the frame with a concrete board. Fire proof, Waterproof and will not rot.
Some of our Alterations. Some offered my MFGR and others to improve function and our needs.
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Windows. Cut in 3 straps. Allows windows to close or open to any height. Supports window better. No bending. Windows: Roll a cloth inside when up. Limits scratching.
Rafter ends and Wall Ends. Padded as they were not rounded and were causing wear points.
Stove: When in use clean out stove pipes often. Safety is No Accident! We used a cement board behind the stove to protect the walls and installed two 12 volt fans. One to push air and the other to keep the Stove pipe cooler.
Door Treatment ( Frame Molding ). We liked our treatment better that’s all. Formed a better exterior line and finish.
Moving Snow: Cleaning your top and Walls. A Pool Brush Works Great. LONG HANDLE.
We’ll have more on the insides soon. Banco’s (Benches) Loft Sleeping Space, Office Space, Hanging Space. Regular furniture does not work in a yurt. My opinion. Excuse me…
We did not use steps for our entry. Wood chips piled up near level and inset sand stone walk. It’s like a ramp and easier for Grandma..
Yurt (Part 3) Stove Kit, Top Cover and Windows
Yurt (Part 3) Stove Kit, Top Cover and Windows
The Stove Kit in our case consisted of the Kevlar Patch and glue. That was about it. There were no instructions for set up. The Mfgr had no documents or picts available to aid us in set up. ( a 11 page manual was provided but had little in the way of picts to show what they were telling you to do. (Spent hours on the phone) I used the stove set up information from our Yurt in Alaska (Pacific Yurts). It worked fine on our stove. ( We will post up some new more complete picts of our stove and install along with other tips soon. Parts 4---- Whatever. Thanks again and share good Yurt stuff.
Top Cover: This was a problem from the start. No mention that the Top cover we'd be getting was not a HARD DOME. Did not discover till a week or so into the order. At the time the MFGR did not have a Hard Dome available. (Bummer) but I was assured it was in the works and we could get one.
Never did get one. Issues with the Soft Top. Wind makes it flap and lets air flow in as the cover is buffeted by the wind. Our Top Cover also had a tear in the seam. A sewing mistake looks like. It leaked till we sewed a patch and sealed it. Also the Soft Cover is attached to the top vis 4 ropes.
The ropes go from the top to anchors at the bottom side of the Yurt. The ropes themselves are causing wear points as they go over the side of the wall. We have padded these wear points to minimize wear. The cover is also not easy to take off or slightly open to allow air flow. When loosened it slides off and takes more than one person to put back on or at least two makes it easier.
Last note on Top Cover. ( also Rafters) The Mfgr sent replacement rafters (8) sent to the wrong address and refused I guess to address our other issues. Hard Dome and some Glue. So we're left to figure out a Hard Dome on own. Should mention the Mfgr did send a replacement Soft Cover even after asking them not to. We wanted a Hard Dome. Not another Soft Cover and we would have paid for it (Hard Dome w/opener) too! No Freebies here.. (No Freebie pages either!!! Tips the Mfgr said he would send to help us with other stuff. I have no idea what these were as we never got them.) Stay tuned for part 4. The Platform and some of our fixes, alterations, and ideas.. Thanks.Hulih20!
Last note on Top Cover: We had two grommets pull out in winds in excess of 60mph. Mfgr said we installed the ropes improperly. There were no instructions. Our fix. Sew a double patch and re-punch and install a new grommet. All's good now I guess. Still would like a Hard Dome. Got Ideas?
Windows and Window treatment. We ordered our window placement @ 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock, door @ 12 noon and our Stove Kit would be installed at 6 o'clock. We received our Yurt and discovered our placement was not as ordered. (Mfgr. said the got it as close as possible.. Door @ 12, Window One at 9 o'clock or 9:30 Stove kit we moved to 1 o'clock and the other window is located 2:30 o'clock.) Effected our planned interior design and the placement. We wanted to take advantage of the SUN more effectively. This we’ll also remedy this summer. New Windows. Larger too!
Window Treatments. Strings! That was the extent of the Window Treatment. What is used to hold the windows open. The string ends were not sealed at the factory and quickly came undone. We made our own window closures. ( 3 straps) which allow us to open and close easily and to any level from wide open to just a slit. The cost for this fix was about $10.00 in straps and a bit of glue.
Velcro does not align at the bottom of the window and the glued seams also at the bottom of the window are coming loose. Lastly. Sewing. Most of the windows sewing is SINGLE Stitched. I would prefer double stitching as it would be stronger. We have to be careful in opening and closing the zippers so we do not pull out the stitching. We'll fix this summer.
Again. Modifications will VOID our (your) warranty. We never got a warranty and have asked many times. No response. So I guess we have no warranty and any of the other modifications we had to make like the wall attachment cuts to fit the door. Not covered.
Specifically from our Mfgr.
REMEMBER, DAMAGE DURING SETUP IS NOT COVERED UNDER ANY WARRENTY, SO TAKE YOUR TIMEAND CALL IF YOU HAVEANY PROBLEMS FIRST.THE GOLDEN RULES This is important! Violation of any of these rules .will void your warranty, could damage your yurt, and could result in injury.
Even they know Safety is no ACCIDENT! Re… watch yourself always. Protect you, your investments and your Yurt it's perhaps your home,shelter,getaway. Enjoy and share your alternative living story fo others.
Question: What is the difference between Yurt Mfgrs. Same size yurt. # of Rafters, Seams, Double vs Single Stitching, Fabrics, Materials, Certified Plans, Hard Dome vs Soft Top. Where are you intending to set up your Yurt. Wilderness, In the City or on rual property. What will you use it for. Living, playing, meditation? These are so many uses for Yurts. But if one costs say $5000.00 and the other costs $10,000.00 there must be a difference or your paying more or less for what? Our lack of really understanding, learning, fact finding our way towards a decision to purchase. so get informed.
If your in the wilderness like Alaska whatever you buy better be able to take it. Wind and Snow Kits may be necessary. You can not afford to have something go wrong and when it does and your several thousands of miles away from your Yurt Mfgr. How willl they respond. Again. Pacific Yurts responded in a week with new walls (THANKS). A bear decided he wanted a look. We later raised the Yurt some 13'. Not sure that will help much. Kodiak Brown (Grizzzzzzzly) Bears RULE the Alaska wilderness. Your at least one down on the food chain in AK.
The Stove Kit in our case consisted of the Kevlar Patch and glue. That was about it. There were no instructions for set up. The Mfgr had no documents or picts available to aid us in set up. ( a 11 page manual was provided but had little in the way of picts to show what they were telling you to do. (Spent hours on the phone) I used the stove set up information from our Yurt in Alaska (Pacific Yurts). It worked fine on our stove. ( We will post up some new more complete picts of our stove and install along with other tips soon. Parts 4---- Whatever. Thanks again and share good Yurt stuff.
Top Cover: This was a problem from the start. No mention that the Top cover we'd be getting was not a HARD DOME. Did not discover till a week or so into the order. At the time the MFGR did not have a Hard Dome available. (Bummer) but I was assured it was in the works and we could get one.
Never did get one. Issues with the Soft Top. Wind makes it flap and lets air flow in as the cover is buffeted by the wind. Our Top Cover also had a tear in the seam. A sewing mistake looks like. It leaked till we sewed a patch and sealed it. Also the Soft Cover is attached to the top vis 4 ropes.
The ropes go from the top to anchors at the bottom side of the Yurt. The ropes themselves are causing wear points as they go over the side of the wall. We have padded these wear points to minimize wear. The cover is also not easy to take off or slightly open to allow air flow. When loosened it slides off and takes more than one person to put back on or at least two makes it easier.
Last note on Top Cover. ( also Rafters) The Mfgr sent replacement rafters (8) sent to the wrong address and refused I guess to address our other issues. Hard Dome and some Glue. So we're left to figure out a Hard Dome on own. Should mention the Mfgr did send a replacement Soft Cover even after asking them not to. We wanted a Hard Dome. Not another Soft Cover and we would have paid for it (Hard Dome w/opener) too! No Freebies here.. (No Freebie pages either!!! Tips the Mfgr said he would send to help us with other stuff. I have no idea what these were as we never got them.) Stay tuned for part 4. The Platform and some of our fixes, alterations, and ideas.. Thanks.Hulih20!
Last note on Top Cover: We had two grommets pull out in winds in excess of 60mph. Mfgr said we installed the ropes improperly. There were no instructions. Our fix. Sew a double patch and re-punch and install a new grommet. All's good now I guess. Still would like a Hard Dome. Got Ideas?
Windows and Window treatment. We ordered our window placement @ 3 o'clock and 9 o'clock, door @ 12 noon and our Stove Kit would be installed at 6 o'clock. We received our Yurt and discovered our placement was not as ordered. (Mfgr. said the got it as close as possible.. Door @ 12, Window One at 9 o'clock or 9:30 Stove kit we moved to 1 o'clock and the other window is located 2:30 o'clock.) Effected our planned interior design and the placement. We wanted to take advantage of the SUN more effectively. This we’ll also remedy this summer. New Windows. Larger too!
Window Treatments. Strings! That was the extent of the Window Treatment. What is used to hold the windows open. The string ends were not sealed at the factory and quickly came undone. We made our own window closures. ( 3 straps) which allow us to open and close easily and to any level from wide open to just a slit. The cost for this fix was about $10.00 in straps and a bit of glue.
Velcro does not align at the bottom of the window and the glued seams also at the bottom of the window are coming loose. Lastly. Sewing. Most of the windows sewing is SINGLE Stitched. I would prefer double stitching as it would be stronger. We have to be careful in opening and closing the zippers so we do not pull out the stitching. We'll fix this summer.
Again. Modifications will VOID our (your) warranty. We never got a warranty and have asked many times. No response. So I guess we have no warranty and any of the other modifications we had to make like the wall attachment cuts to fit the door. Not covered.
Specifically from our Mfgr.
REMEMBER, DAMAGE DURING SETUP IS NOT COVERED UNDER ANY WARRENTY, SO TAKE YOUR TIMEAND CALL IF YOU HAVEANY PROBLEMS FIRST.THE GOLDEN RULES This is important! Violation of any of these rules .will void your warranty, could damage your yurt, and could result in injury.
Even they know Safety is no ACCIDENT! Re… watch yourself always. Protect you, your investments and your Yurt it's perhaps your home,shelter,getaway. Enjoy and share your alternative living story fo others.
Question: What is the difference between Yurt Mfgrs. Same size yurt. # of Rafters, Seams, Double vs Single Stitching, Fabrics, Materials, Certified Plans, Hard Dome vs Soft Top. Where are you intending to set up your Yurt. Wilderness, In the City or on rual property. What will you use it for. Living, playing, meditation? These are so many uses for Yurts. But if one costs say $5000.00 and the other costs $10,000.00 there must be a difference or your paying more or less for what? Our lack of really understanding, learning, fact finding our way towards a decision to purchase. so get informed.
If your in the wilderness like Alaska whatever you buy better be able to take it. Wind and Snow Kits may be necessary. You can not afford to have something go wrong and when it does and your several thousands of miles away from your Yurt Mfgr. How willl they respond. Again. Pacific Yurts responded in a week with new walls (THANKS). A bear decided he wanted a look. We later raised the Yurt some 13'. Not sure that will help much. Kodiak Brown (Grizzzzzzzly) Bears RULE the Alaska wilderness. Your at least one down on the food chain in AK.
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